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25 June 2024

Episode 357: The Future of Anti-Aging: Dr. Adeel Khan's Insights on Gene Therapy, Stem Cells, and Exosomes

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Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster38:00

More Stem-Cell Replication Can Make a Product Worse

Khan warns that repeatedly replicating stem cells is not automatically beneficial. He says excessive passages can damage DNA, reduce stability and survival, and leave senescent cells that emit pro-inflammatory signals, making manufacturing details central to safety.

  • Passage count means how many times cells are replicated
  • Too many passages may cause DNA damage
  • Over-replicated cells may become unstable or senescent
  • Manufacturing quality can change the risk profile

So, the times the number of times you replicate the stem cells, for example, if you replicate them too many times, it can cause DNA…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 38:00

So, then they can actually cause more harm potentially.

Dr. Adeel Khan · 38:00
#stem cells#manufacturing#safety
Myth Buster55:30

Why Khan Questions IV NAD Without Trimethylglycine

Khan agrees that NAD supports mitochondrial processes but questions whether intravenous NAD reliably enters cells. He says clinics using IV NAD should understand trimethylglycine, which he claims can improve intracellular penetration and reduce symptoms such as nausea; these are his clinical views, not a general prescription.

  • NAD levels decline with age
  • Khan says IV NAD may remain outside cells
  • He links extracellular NAD with inflammation and nausea
  • He recommends asking whether a clinic uses trimethylglycine

IV NAD may not actually do what is kind of touted to do and promoted to do. And it may actually cause more harm because…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 56:00

if you give it with NAD like 30 minutes before, then it can increase the intracellular penetration of NAD.

Dr. Adeel Khan · 56:30
#nad#trimethylglycine#mitochondria

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take08:00

Why Khan Expects Regenerative Treatments to Get Cheaper

Using Tesla's early Roadster as an analogy, Khan argues that expensive early adopters can fund demand, manufacturing improvements, and eventual access. He predicts regenerative therapies could cost a fraction of today's prices within a decade, while noting that they currently remain expensive.

  • New technologies often begin as costly products for early adopters
  • Higher demand and manufacturing innovation can reduce prices
  • Khan says treatment prices have already declined over five years

But the only way that's going to happen is unfortunately the famous and the rich have to do it first and then it'll trickle down…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 08:30

I feel like in 10 years this stuff will be a quarter of the price if not even potentially even less than that than it…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 09:00
#cost curve#medical technology#access

Explainer· 6

Explainer03:00

Regenerative Medicine Tries to Repair, Not Just Manage

Khan defines regenerative medicine as an attempt to restore damaged tissue rather than remove it or manage symptoms with medication. He argues that the field is beginning to deliver real clinical applications after decades of promise.

  • The goal is to repair tissue toward its prior state
  • The approach contrasts with surgery and symptom-management drugs
  • Khan says clinical use is only at an early stage

Yeah, it's it's an old term that came about because it was this whole idea that we can repair or fix tissue back to the…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 03:00

We're just trained that you can only manage symptoms and that you can't actually reverse disease.

Dr. Adeel Khan · 03:30
#regenerative medicine#tissue repair#healthcare
Explainer05:00

Why Medical Research Can Take Decades to Reach Clinics

Khan describes a translational gap between findings in research and their adoption by average clinicians. He says regenerative medicine education is largely absent from medical-school curricula, leaving clinical practice behind rapidly developing science.

  • Research findings may take 15 to 20 years to reach routine care
  • Many doctors receive no formal regenerative-medicine curriculum
  • Public education can expose patients to options their doctors may not know

shown in research to be effective gets translated into the clinics of the average doctor. So, there's a huge gap and delay and that's the…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 05:30

We didn't have a regenerative medicine curriculum in medical school and there still isn't a regenerative medicine curriculum.

Dr. Adeel Khan · 05:30
#translational gap#medical education#clinical adoption
Explainer11:30

How Khan Says Follistatin Gene Therapy Extends Delivery

Khan says ordinary follistatin clears from the body quickly, making repeated dosing impractical. He describes a delivery system intended to make a patient's cells produce follistatin for 18 to 24 months, while acknowledging that benefits cannot be guaranteed and repeat treatment is eventually required.

  • Follistatin has a short half-life when injected conventionally
  • The described gene therapy uses one injection
  • Khan says expression lasts roughly 18 to 24 months
  • The treatment is not permanent and outcomes are not guaranteed

that's our technology which allows us to insert any gene of interest into your body with one injection via subcutaneous injection in the fat or…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 12:00

produce Follistatin and then it just goes into your blood and then Follistatin does what it does, which is it increases energy, it increases strength,…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 13:00
#follistatin#gene therapy#delivery
Explainer17:00

The City Analogy for Stem-Cell Exhaustion

Khan compares the body to a city whose DNA is stored in a central library and whose stem cells act as repair workers. In his analogy, aging reduces the repair workforce, allowing damage and faulty instructions to accumulate across tissues.

  • DNA is compared with a library of maintenance instructions
  • Stem cells act like repair and construction workers
  • Stem-cell exhaustion is presented as a hallmark of aging
  • Accumulated damage is linked to chronic disease risk

Your body is like a city and imagine there's like different districts and there's there's this kind of golden library where it houses all the…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 17:00

But unfortunately, over time as you get older your stem cells get exhausted. That's one of the hallmarks of aging. It's called stem cell exhaustion.

Dr. Adeel Khan · 17:30
#stem cells#aging#analogy
Explainer21:00

The Biggest Cell-Therapy Hurdle Is Staying in the Body

Khan says many intravenously delivered stem cells become trapped in the lungs, while tiny exosomes can distribute more widely. He identifies rapid immune clearance as a central technical problem and describes cloaking mechanisms and hydrogels as attempts to keep therapies active for longer.

  • Many intravenous stem cells become trapped in the lungs
  • Exosomes are small enough to travel more widely
  • The immune system can clear cells and exosomes quickly
  • Cloaking and hydrogel approaches aim to extend persistence

the problem is when you do IV stem cells, most of them actually get trapped in the lungs.

Dr. Adeel Khan · 21:00
#cell therapy#exosomes#immune clearance
Explainer45:00

The Mitochondrial Theory Behind Khan's SS-31 Interest

Khan presents mitochondria as regulators of energy, oxidative stress, and tissue homeostasis rather than mere cellular powerhouses. He argues that mitochondrial dysfunction may be a root driver of aging and names SS-31 as his preferred mitochondrial peptide, though the discussion does not establish it as standard care.

  • Mitochondria regulate more than energy production
  • Tissue homeostasis is the maintenance of a stable bodily state
  • Oxidative stress and antioxidant balance affect cellular damage
  • Khan says SS-31 may help restore mitochondrial function

there's something called the unitary theory of aging. It's it's kind of this whole idea that there's one root cause of aging and it seems…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 45:00

So, SS-31 is probably my favorite mitochondrial peptide. And the reason is cuz they can help to restore mitochondrial function and help with the actual…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 46:30
#mitochondria#ss-31#aging

Story· 1

Story1:00:30

Why Eterna Plans Few Clinics but More Biotech Products

Khan describes a business model built around a small number of destination clinics rather than a large franchise network. He expects the longer-term company to focus more heavily on biotech development and distribution, with clinics serving as exclusive medical-tourism locations.

  • The plan is five to ten clinics over five to ten years
  • Clinics are designed as destination locations
  • Expensive treatments reduce the need for a dense network
  • Biotech products and distribution are the longer-term focus

my vision for the company is to be more of a biotech and distribution company over time but probably over the next 5 to 10…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 1:00:30

the idea is for them to be places where people go as a as almost like a destination every year or 2 years or whatever…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 1:01:00
#biotech#business model#medical tourism

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway13:00

Biomarkers Matter Less Than What Changes for the Patient

Khan discusses biological-age tests but says clinical function matters more than a disputed biomarker. He looks for changes such as measurable muscle gain, energy, and strength rather than treating a clock score as the final outcome.

  • Chronological and measured biological age can differ
  • Khan says current biological-age tests are imperfect
  • DEXA scans can provide a concrete body-composition measure
  • Patient energy and strength are central clinical outcomes

There's arguably there's not a great test for that at this moment, although there's a company out of Harvard called Generation Lab that measures biological…

Dr. Adeel Khan · 13:00

but to me what's most important is what's it actually doing to my patient.

Dr. Adeel Khan · 14:00
#biomarkers#biological age#patient outcomes