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05 November 2024

Episode 395: Dr. Abe Malkin on Next-Gen Health: NAD Drip Therapy, Ketamine and Environmental Testing

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Hot Take· 2

Hot Take25:00

Cold Plunges and Run Clubs Are Becoming the New Bar

Cohen and Malkin argue that community and social connection may matter more for longevity than stacking isolated wellness treatments. They describe run clubs, group saunas, cold-plunge gatherings, and wellness events as healthier ways to meet people with shared interests.

  • Community is framed as a major longevity factor
  • Wellness venues are becoming social spaces
  • Shared activities make difficult practices more engaging
  • Interest-based gatherings can replace alcohol-centered meetings

there's no better supplement on the planet to be happy over time live longer all those things than than that

Jennifer Cohen · 25:30

they're starting to make Wellness part of your lifestyle and a way to interact socially

Dr. Abe Malkin · 26:30
#community#social wellness#cold plunge#run clubs
Hot Take47:30

Genetic Testing Is Informative Now, but Targeted Therapy Is Next

Malkin sees present-day genetic testing mainly as a way to understand how an individual may react to certain factors. He expects its larger impact to arrive when therapies can be selected for a person's specific genetic profile rather than merely reporting risk or traits.

  • Current tests can provide phenotype or genotype context
  • Information is not always immediately actionable
  • Future treatments may be selected by genetic profile
  • The expected shift is from description to targeted therapy

genetic test is on the cusp of really great things

Dr. Abe Malkin · 47:30

eventually treatments will be geared toward your specific genetic phenotype or genotype and that's really when I think it's going to be super impactful

Dr. Abe Malkin · 48:00
#genetics#personalized medicine#testing

Explainer· 4

Explainer03:30

NAD, NR, NMN, and Why Delivery Route Matters

Malkin describes NAD as a co-enzyme involved in chemical reactions and mitochondrial energy production, then distinguishes it from the components and precursors sold in supplements. He ranks IV, injected, and oral delivery by claimed absorption and says objective NAD testing is beginning to complement subjective reports.

  • NAD levels are described as declining with age
  • NR and NMN are discussed in relation to NAD production
  • Delivery route changes the amount and speed of absorption
  • Testing can compare levels before and after supplementation

essentially NAD is an enzyme a co-enzyme that helps your body generate chemical reaction

Dr. Abe Malkin · 03:30

the hierarchy in terms of Effectiveness and absorption is the best way you can take any supplement for that matter is really IV because that…

Dr. Abe Malkin · 07:00
#nad#nr#nmn#iv therapy
Explainer30:30

Cold Plunging Trains Both Physiology and Emotional Control

Malkin contrasts cryotherapy's surface cooling with the deeper cooling he attributes to cold plunging. He also presents cold exposure as psychological practice: notice the urge to escape, control breathing, and learn to remain composed under pressure.

  • Cryotherapy and immersion are described as differing in depth of cooling
  • Cold exposure can create an immediate stress response
  • Breath work and coaching may improve tolerance
  • Managing the urge to escape is framed as a separate mental benefit

down the outer surface of your skin and so isn't getting that deeper level of cooling that you get from a cold plunge

Dr. Abe Malkin · 31:00

learning how to manage your emotion around I need to get out of this stressful situation right away rather than dealing with it I think…

Dr. Abe Malkin · 32:00
#cold plunge#cryotherapy#breathwork#stress
Explainer33:30

Stem Cells vs Exosomes: Tissue Growth and Inflammation

Malkin distinguishes stem cells from exosomes and contrasts local joint injections with systemic infusions. He describes stem cells as immature cells that may differentiate, while exosomes are characterized as stem-cell byproducts associated with shorter-term anti-inflammatory effects.

  • Local injections target a particular area
  • Systemic infusions are presented as traveling through the body
  • Stem cells are described as immature cells
  • Exosomes are described as byproducts rather than tissue-growing cells

stem cells are actual immature cells that are harvested from birth products at the time of birth and haven't differentiated into muscle cells C liver…

Dr. Abe Malkin · 34:00

they don't grow tissue the way that stem cells do but you use it very focally to help treat inflammation in the short term

Dr. Abe Malkin · 35:00
#stem cells#exosomes#regenerative medicine
Explainer38:00

How Ketamine Therapy May Interrupt Negative Thought Loops

Malkin describes ketamine as a dissociative delivered by lozenge, IV, or intramuscular injection in a time-limited experience. He says the therapeutic opportunity is to revisit difficult thoughts and reframe patterns, especially when treatment includes professional support and integration practices such as journaling, meditation, or breath work.

  • The acute experience is described as lasting roughly 40 to 45 minutes
  • Different delivery routes vary in intensity and supervision
  • The goal is to interrupt and reframe entrenched thought patterns
  • Malkin cites four to eight sessions over two months as a studied range
  • Professional guidance and integration practices are emphasized

it really helps them break negative thought patterns in their brain and then rewire their neural pathways through neurop plasticity in a healthier way

Dr. Abe Malkin · 38:30

a lot of the Studies have shown it's between four to eight sessions over a two-month period that really gets the most benefit especially when…

Dr. Abe Malkin · 40:00
#ketamine#mental health#neuroplasticity#therapy

Q&A· 2

Q&A35:30

Why Stem Cell Treatments Outside the US May Use More Cells

Asked why overseas treatments are considered more potent, Malkin says the main difference is whether harvested stem cells can be expanded before infusion. He adds an important uncertainty: repeated expansion may reduce efficacy, and he says he has not directly reviewed those studies.

  • US rules are described as limiting cell expansion
  • Overseas clinics may multiply harvested cells before use
  • A larger cell count does not necessarily mean proportionally greater efficacy
  • Malkin explicitly notes uncertainty about the expansion evidence

here in the US you're not able to expand stem cells

Dr. Abe Malkin · 35:30

there's also an argument to be made that expanding the cell each time you expand do you lose a little efficacy of that additional cell

Dr. Abe Malkin · 36:00
#stem cells#regulation#cell expansion
Q&A41:30

Where NAD May Fit Alongside Addiction Treatment

Malkin links addiction-related toxin exposure with depleted NAD and neurotransmitters, then presents NAD or niagen infusions as a possible adjunct. He does not describe it as a replacement for established treatment and explicitly positions it alongside pharmacological care.

  • Addiction is associated with greater toxin exposure in the discussion
  • NAD is proposed as replenishment support
  • The claimed benefit may differ from that in the general public
  • The therapy is framed as an adjunct rather than a standalone cure

giving them NAD and injections niagen infusions can really help them repete those neurotransmitters that are lost and then the NAD that's lost

Dr. Abe Malkin · 42:00

NAD can help anyone and I think it would probably be more helpful for someone with addiction problems just given their bodies the harmful effects…

Dr. Abe Malkin · 42:30
#nad#addiction#adjunct therapy

Tool· 1

Tool21:00

The Cortisol-Spike Theory of Middle-of-the-Night Waking

Malkin says nighttime cortisol spikes can contribute to waking around 2, 3, or 4 a.m. and difficulty returning to sleep. He describes using magnesium, inositol, glycine, and a commercial cortisol-support supplement, though the discussion does not examine evidence quality, contraindications, or individual causes of sleep disruption.

  • Falling asleep and staying asleep are separate problems
  • Nighttime cortisol is presented as one possible contributor
  • Malkin describes a combination of bedtime supplements
  • Individual safety and other causes require professional review

the reason people often wake up at you know 2: 3: 4 in the morning right is because their cortisol levels naturally spike in the…

Dr. Abe Malkin · 21:30

it's the stuff before bed like magnesium and ocol and Glycine and then a cortisol blocker which helped prevent the spike in middle of the…

Dr. Abe Malkin · 22:00
#sleep#cortisol#supplements

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway11:00

How to Measure Longevity Beyond Feeling Better

The conversation separates subjective benefits from measurable changes. Malkin suggests tracking NAD levels and comparing biological with chronological age, while emphasizing that longevity practices are incremental rather than a single silver bullet.

  • Subjective improvement still matters
  • Objective measures can test whether biomarkers change
  • Biological-age tests are distinguished from chronological age
  • Multiple habits and interventions may contribute incrementally

subjective benefit is benefit whether or not you can measure it

Dr. Abe Malkin · 11:00

you can check your biological age versus your chronological age and see what the difference is

Dr. Abe Malkin · 12:00
#longevity#biomarkers#biological age